Ive been taking it for a test drive on my custom-built flight rig. The MCG Pro also has the brake axis and technically the flip-up trigger is ALSO an axis although more often used as a couple of different buttons. Thank you for all the suggestions. VirPil make easy use Tm Warthog (or Cougar) grip in their bases, since use the same connection nut and grip electronics. In this review, we'll take a closer look at Virpil's MongoosT-50CM2 throttle, comparing it with the popular Thrustmaster TWCS. JavaScript is disabled. Ace pedals also have a much better mounting solution, in my opinion, compared to the TPR pedals. I've spent the last couple of days researching all this so here is my thought process which may also help with your decision. You are using an out of date browser. I received it in just over 4 weeks too, just a day before Christmas! Either way, in terms of quality and build at least it seems like a toss up. Somebody has also made some printable maps so that you can record what and where you have settings. After correspondence with Virpil I have to load and create a profile for each device individually, one at a time. Where as the constellation/kosmosima grips where designed with twisting in mind. I have an in-depth write up here. * Gunfighter Mk.III is to be released, "soon". Did you a manage to get your bindings for Elite dangerous ? This alone has made me settle on getting the Virpil base. Overall, Im smitten with these Virpil controls. The configuration software is very detailed but complicated. > DIY The VKB is slightly more refined whilst the Virpil is heavier duty. Try contacting vkb about the broken parts, depending on how old your stick is, I've seen people post on here that they just sent them a bunch of parts to repair failed items. I've taught myself how to use Virpil software, but the VKB software looks much more complex and the documentation seems lacking (translated) with many features only described in forum posts. When it comes to calibration and programming, you will similarly need to find your own way with the community of users on YouTube and on message boards as Virpil offers next to no help in getting things squared away. Please check your email to find a confirmation email, and follow the steps to confirm your humanity. And, just like everyone else, Virpils stuff is on backorder as well. For around $70 you can get the Virpil Desk Mount V3-S. My favorite set of kit is called the Virpil Constellation Alpha, which, when coupled with a throttle, does an admirable job of controlling commercial aircraft. Price isn't the issue as much as quality for me. I have a VKB stick/pedals and a Virpil throttle, and I feel that VKB hardware is higher quality overall (mostly due to the electronics/internals). and our They needed a bolt tightening inside to get rid of the wobble. I also had several screw heads shatter as I attempted to remove them, either due to being made from weak metal or being gummed up with too much thread locking paste. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. I have an idea from my previous setup, but never really got round to completing it for Exploring and even negotiation of the galaxy map, I need to sort this finally as Im using an old DK2 VR and must stop the temptation to use my keyboard, or mouse. Both the MCG (right hand only) grip and Kosmosima Premium (left or right) have plenty. But that being said, if you're focusing on space games, I'm leaning towards thinking you'll prefer the gunfighter + kosmosima or virpils constellation. Virpil has the better engineers. WarBRD with more throw has some difficulties for center this heavy grip. I have the same Virpil throttle. Nice descriptions. No rush though, as we all know its not a quick in out game. It functions great and feels great. But now Im able to use the two sticks twist axes to handle strafing (right) and moving up and down (left). I want to choose the best one for nice grip and feel, reaching buttons with s/med hands, good button placement, usability with Elite and SC, easy twisting for yaw and good centring with no drift. Elite also won't recognize any button inputs that are greater than #32. Both can be gotten with twist. I found a couple of programs like this but some of them are no longer operational or are too limited to map more than 32 buttons themselves. Right? By What 'limit' are you talking about? The biggest thing for me seems to be waiting time. I will look for that in VPC config software. Plus half of what I would need from VKB is out of stock. In term of quality, feel and performance? Virpil pedals are much, much lower to the floor and accommodate a wider stance which, as a 66 man, I greatly appreciate. A lot cheaper and for someone that isn't hardcore into tons of flying will be more than sufficient. Nevertheless, late last year Virpil sent along a selection of its most popular flight gear. Was looking at getting a new one but decided I might as well upgrade to either the VKB Gunfighter or Virpril T50 and would love some advice and opinions on both setups. If you use the Virpil software there's an option somewhere to divide number of controls into groups of 32. I'd love to mount to desk but I don't have the space for a permanent setup and need to be able to move my controllers out of the way easily. Be careful about copying other peoples bindings, as most of them seem to have really weird ideas or they might do only exploring so never use pips and things like that. Those look awfully nice. This unique state of art device is already out of "development" phase, and is currently entering "preparation for serial production". Sign up for a new account in our community. And every one but a single dial is bound. Im looking at either going the virpil mongoos T-50 CM2 base with the mongoos T-50 CM2 grip or constellation alpha grip with the 200mm S curve extension for 554.81 euro (905.89 aud) (includes shipping). So I did that, but two things happened: one was checking in Windows, I saw THREE T-50 CM throttles, although ED now could see all the panel buttons and switches. If youre stuck on Microsoft Flight Simulator especially the big commercial airliners give Honeycomb Aeronautical a try. My x55 stick looks like it's reached the end of it's life and I'm looking for a new stick first then we'll see. - Virpil WARbrd vs VKB: WARbrd base has movement range of +/-22 degrees, where as the VKB bases have +/-15 degrees. You must log in or register to reply here. That's it. So whats a budding flight or space sim enthusiast to do? Virpil's compression springs in the Mongoos are nice, but the WarBRD doesn't use them. The ideal base for Warthog - a heavy (~1KG) grip plus extension is T50CM2. TL;DR: worth waiting and paying for Virpil over VKB if I'm leaning Virpil and want as many fingertip buttons as possible? They are both superb bits of kit though and you will not regret buying either. Lastly if you have any thoughts please let me know as i know for some spending this kind of money is easy but for its hard for me as now that i have a young family money isnt just failing out of my wallet and i want to make the right purchase as i can barely afford to do it once. VIRPIL hardware key mapping setups (PDF) for you to fill out, https://virpil.freshdesk.com/en/supes/47000029808-vpc-software-quick-start-guide, HOTAS Warthog Flight Stick - Thrustmaster - Technical support website, https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/controls-not-sticking.558432/#post-8792964. I currently have a T.16kM HOTAS setup and am looking to upgrade the flightstick first and eventually move over to a HOSAS setup. 3 - anyone with theses setups i am conimg from a logitech x56 how to they compare in terms of build quality and feel? Overall, I'd recommend VKB for quality and performance. The Virpil Constellation Alpha also comes in a left-handed variant. The only other thing up in the same price and perhaps build quality (I don't truly know about them either other than what I've read here, they're trying at least) is Winwing but their stick option is much more limited in overall controls. I would not have thought there were no set binds for those devices, and its up to your personal preference to programme in. I found a couple of programs like this but some of them are no longer . I could hit the gas on the main thruster to accelerate forward, rotate my ship in place, then roll left while also moving slightly down and sliding to the right all at the same time. First post here. Also, I'm not dead set on those two options by any means. Both companies use high quality metal gimbals and contactless sensors for axes. Between the WarBRD and Gunfighter options it really seems to come down to personal preference and I'll never know without putting my hands on each. Very close to the real thing (comparing it to C-130J and A400M controls). Yes I followrd their guide. There are some there. Powered by Invision Community, 2012-2022 1C Game Studios | 1-777 Limited, 32 Kritis Street, Papachristoforou Building, 4th Floor, 3087 Limassol, Cyprus. Virpil is a more competitive option if you want to use TM grips out of the box (but you could just buy a VKB adapter and do the same or a WinWing base). - VKB gunfighter base vs Virpils bases: VKB has a dry clutch. Choosing a selection results in a full page refresh. Using a Virpil HOTAS in Elite Dangerous Ken Cikas 1.25K subscribers Subscribe 61 Share 7.4K views 2 years ago Finally got around to editing this down. You'll see I haven't even mapped the 2nd choice analog features of the top MCG hat on the right hand, ran out of needalso have some repeats left and right in case I get confused in heat of moment. I think that there's a good chance that the Gunfighter + mcg ultimate will take the spot as best consumer joystick on the market. Outline:0:00 - First impressio. You are using an out of date browser. Also, I did notice some defective materials in the batch of products that I received. I do use pedals too but haven't even mapped twist on my right hand, so that's itself not a limitation if you didn't intend to use them. Problem isn't your Virpil, Elite Dangerous cannot use past 32 buttons on a device. I also have smallish hands and found that VKB is better suited to my hands and more ergonomically designed. But, if youre looking to spend a relatively modest amount of money on a more general purpose device something that might work with terrestrial and space flight I recommend you take a look at Virpil Controls, a small European company that is doing some really remarkable work. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. What do you mean by splitting axes? JavaScript is disabled. WarBRD with more throw has some difficulties for center this heavy grip. The feel and build quality is like nothing else. Swapping out the throttle for another stick meant that I had to constantly hold the left-hand stick forward to maintain forward thrust. Oops. It may show you something you did wrong. I managed to get hold of a Virpil constellation alpha (R) and a CM2 throttle, it was an emotional 2 month process. The non-marking pads on the mounting hardware, for instance, began to slide off after several weeks of continuous use. Warthog grip and you are good to go. > Reviews VKB complicate unnecessary the things, because being a "Apple" require a additional electronic/mechanic adapter ($60), but their Gunfigther Mk.II* base wasoptimized for deal withWarthoggrip weight. > Tutorials and everything HOTAS related. They also have just the right amount of heft to them, and feel like a substantial upgrade to the kinds of flight sticks Ive been using for the last decade. 03.03.20|The sheets for the ALPHA-grips have been updated (the dual-push for the scroll encoder has been added and there was a problem with duplicating entries). Just wish they would have shipped with more replacement parts if they're so prone to breaking under regular usage. Looking at grips VKB and Virpil are more similar and it feels like preference is mostly related to hand size and just what each person prefers. For more information, please see our I would think it should be enough. I have a warthog here, definitely above other sticks I owned, I feel like Virpils are too. Note that youll need two of the Desk Mount V3-S devices for a HOSAS solution using the Virpil Constellation sticks, which brings the price of accessories up to $140. I have zero complaints about it. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. There's only so much your thumb can roam around and do. Jmo My advice, of course, is to give the scalpers a wide berth. i use a steam controller and nothing else mostly unless i need a hotkey for certain things on the keyboard. We use cookies and other tracking technologies to improve your browsing experience on our site, show personalized content and targeted ads, analyze site traffic, and understand where our audiences come from. I can say you really can go wrong either way you go. Virpil has its own configuration and testing. After a few hours of HOSAS practice, I suddenly found myself with much more precise and immediate control over my virtual spaceships than ever before. (e.g. Just got the Virpil Constellation Alpha-R grip with the Warbrd base, as well as the 50 CM2 throttle and elite doesn't see any Virpil hardware. Looks like the Virpil devices need more power that I have available. When you run the Virpil Joystick tester, do all the analog axes and button inputs show up? Please note you will lose the axis on the brake lever that comes with the Virpil grip, as the Warthog grip only supports button press on that lever. Also known as a hand-on-stick-and-stick (HOSAS) setup, I found that it completely changed the flight experience in both Star Citizens Persistent Universe and Elite Dangerous. Perhaps toe break tension as well. sorry don't own one but a here's a something you may like to try first. And just last night the plastic peg for one of the hat switches snapped. Me personally I plan to upgrade to mcg ultimate with the gf mkIII base from vkb, when they come out for people who dont already have gf base in February. I mostly play Elite Dangerous in VR and they have been fantastic for this with so many buttons and axis. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I'd pass on the NXT if your budget allows for something with cams. Better still, the Constellations side-mounted thumbsticks mean that you can actually navigate on foot without ever taking your hands off the joysticks. You're not running all your USB devices through the one hub are you? This applies to the connector between grip and base. If I had to choose one it would be an Alpha L or R whichever was needed, and as a pair Virpil arguably makes the best HOSAS you can get. newsletter. Yes I followrd their guide. For using the Warthog grip, the easier to work with would be the Virpil base, as it uses the same pinout/connections. They release quickly, making storage a breeze. The impact was especially prominent in Star Citizen, which has much faster ships and far more aggressive combat. I read somewhere that you need the virpil software to tell the OS that it's 2 different inputs. VIRPIL hardware - key mapping setups (PDF) for you to fill out Got a Virpil throttle but I can only program about half the hats, axis', and buttons because of ED limiting us to 32 "buttons" per device. Even basic assembly drove me out to YouTube where I spent hours freeze-framing foreign language unboxing videos to find out which screw goes where. If not, then you've configured the device incorrectly. Everything I've ever bought from VKB has been spot on out of the box. You can also remove about an inch of height from the pedals, stripping off the rubber feet and the entire lower frame, to attach them directly to a custom flight seat. Money isn't really an issue for me. Vectors which had previously been relegated to the keyboard or tiny hat switches were now integrated into the joysticks themselves. If youre playing a more hardcore flight simulator, like something from the DCS World portfolio, you probably already know about VKB. I haven't checked Virpil in a while but didn't think anything had more than the MCG Pro, with the hat over on the index finger position as well as on the thumbrest. If so, how and what programs? Vs the VKB Gunfighter MK3 with the modern combat edition grip and 200mm s curve extension for 433.13 euro ($707.21 aud) (includes shipping). I saw Vjoy mentioned as a solution but it seems to be half of the solution because it seems to require another program to virtually map the physical device (in this case a throttle). Generally you will find that Virpil is considered the top dog in the mid-range sim gear bracket. The VKB base has some nice features the Virpil base doesn't have (dampers) and overall just rates a bit higher in terms of quality/performance. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I don't predict it being a huge game changer, but it's kinda the first time we've had an all metal grip in a high end joystick. Starting to wonder about the all-metal construction with that new ultimate grip, and maybe investing in a heavier duty base. Can't speak for Virpil as I've got VKB, so disclosure, obviously this is possibly biased opinion. Got a Virpil throttle but I can only program about half the hats, axis', and buttons because of ED limiting us to 32 "buttons" per device. Initially it was all a bit daunting but after a fair bit of reading various threads this is where I'm at A bit about my requirements - Got to be desktop based. Please enter a valid email and try again. Question on the VKB customization software? > Sales I was hoping for something like this for Virpil Hotas. The VKB software also allows an enormous amount of customization like a shift key action to double up on everything or (what I find sufficient) a 'tempo' function so a quick tap vs. a longer press has 2 different operations for buttons or certain hat positions. Cookie Notice I will try them. Everything about it is perfect. While the input devices alone are excellent, Virpil also has a line of surprisingly affordable custom mounting solutions. Will cost me less money since I can just plug in my Warthog without having to buy that $50 adapter from VKB. I can't speak for Virpil's interiors but I've been inside the grip on my VKB and the way they use independent little boards with pin receptacles to link things together on the Kosmo Premium is amazing, and would be very easy to obtain parts for repair if only one control were to fail for any reason. Another highlight for me were Virpils Ace Interceptor Rudder Pedals. It was a bit of a process to pull apart my two kosmosima grips to fish out the good peg and slap it into my right hand stick, but I'm starting to get a little miffed with the durability of some of these small components. Ive had a pretty good experience with the Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals for the last few years, but they hang from a large central column that takes up a lot of space in my office. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Take my advice - before starting, enter into the map all the switch and button numbers from the Virpil test program because when you look in the ED keybindings, that's what will show. A weekly roundup of the best things from Polygon, By submitting your email, you agree to our, Theres a new challenger in the world of flight sticks and throttles, Sign up for the Still other manufacturers are taking pre-orders, and then banging out new units as quickly as they can. You can watch some youtube teardowns and see that VKB pays attention to the internals in a really impressive way. In all honesty, I am leaning toward the virpil stick, but what I want to know is are their hidden pros or cons to each stick that I should know about and is the additional ~$80US for Virpil (and the wait) worth it over the VKB? So, just to make sure I have this strait, MCG is the 'Modern Combat' Gunfighter stick and the Kosmosima is the 'Space Combat' edition of the gunfighter? Dunno how it is usable in space sims. If I want to upgrade in the future I can just buy the Gunfighter base and use the kosmosima stick (If VKB follow through and actually let you buy bases separately). They have adopted the Thrustmaster Warthog connector and improved it while staying backwards compatible. That means you can easily arrange for a much more complex dual-stick set-up. If you fly helos, you will fall in love with this. Its unique to you. Maybe you should try moving some to other ports on your computer if you haven't tried that yet. VKB complicate unnecessary the things, because being a "Apple" require a . VKB offers an adapter that has to replace the stock connector/pinout in the grip. The V3-S also opens the door to additional customization options, including mounts that hang a keyboard, mouse pad, additional button boxes, and more all off of the same clamp. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. VirPil make easy use Tm Warthog (or Cougar) grip in their bases, since use the same connection nut and grip electronics. Been rocking dual gladiator Ks for a while now (they have been discontinued and replaced with the NXT) but just recently, with just under about 6 months of use I've been having a few small things breaking. Thank you guys for the help. It would be wrong to say that TECS "worthily follows the line of VKB engineering tradition . I will be using it for flight sims mainly dcs in modern jets f14, f18 and i will have it centre mounted in a simpit. 04.08.20|The sheet for the Throttle has been updated (a button was missing). My experience with these sticks is in a HOSAS setup (With the MCG being part of my old HOTAS), so there may be some "synergy" for HOTAS binding considerations that might sway one way or another for the MCG vs Constellation. 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There really is plenty. This is significant. It took me 6 months before I could get my order in for the Alpha. Gonna sound real silly but I miss the days of walking into a electronics shop and being able to actually try the feel of the sticks out. So far Im extremely impressed. Looking at grips VKB and Virpil are more similar and it feels like preference is mostly related to hand size and just what each person prefers. I dont care about cost or desk mounting height or which is the better company or customer service . It features a. Ultimately, it's likely either VKB or Vipril gear will work great for you and you'll be more than happy with either. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/request-for-more-than-32-buttons-virpil-throttle.443129/page-4. 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